Monday, February 10, 2025

Fictitious versions of King Solomon

by Damien F. Mackey “Moreover, for all their reported wealth and power, David nor Solomon is mentioned in a single known Egyptian or Mesopotamian text. And the archaeological evidence in Jerusalem for the famous building projects of Solomon is nonexistent” (The Bible Unearthed, 2001, p. 128)”. Israel Finkelstein If Dr Stephen C. Meyers is correct about King Solomon, then I have completely wasted my time writing my articles on historical reconstructions of the great and wise king, including these latest ones: King Solomon looming large in a reconstructed ancient history (7) Reconstructing King Solomon's Ancient History and: House of Solomon (7) House of Solomon For Dr Stephen C. Meyers has written as follows in the Introduction to his 2020 article: Solomon and Ramses II (7) Solomon and Ramses II Introduction Solomon is said to have a great kingdom (from Egypt to the Euphrates River), great wealth, great wisdom, be a great builder and have many wives, yet there is no trace of Solomon in any ancient texts, or in the archaeological remains. This is a big problem if one follows the strict biblical chronology that Solomon ruled 971 to 931 b.c. There are at least four different possibilities for understanding these stories of Solomon. The stories about Solomon can be taken literally, exactly as stated in the Bible, and then we say archaeologists just have not uncovered the evidence yet. The stories could be exaggerations of Solomon’s reign. This would mean the Bible is lying about Solomon’s greatness, and the stories of Solomon were all invented. Another possibility is that these stories are based on the real stories about Ramses the Great and the Ramesside era. We will look at each possibility and see which is the most likely. The best solution to this problem is to move Solomon to the Late Bronze Age where there is great peace and prosperity under the Ramesside rule in Egypt and the Levant, specifically under Ramses the Great. I will lay forth evidence to show that the best ft for the archaeological remains and oral stories behind Solomon is Ramses II (the Great). [End of quote] The ‘possibility’ above that best fits my reconstructions is the one according to which: “The stories about Solomon can be taken literally, exactly as stated in the Bible, and then we say archaeologists just have not uncovered the evidence yet”. It’s as simple as that! For the received archaeology is completely out of kilter with the dates. See, for example, the references in certain El Amarna [EA] letters to Bit Shulman, the “House of Solomon”, but mis-dated to half a millennium before King Solomon. No need to follow Dr. Meyers’ “… best solution to this problem … to move Solomon to the Late Bronze Age where there is great peace and prosperity …”. For Solomon is already there in the Late Bronze II Age, as I have shown in my articles. Nor is Dr. Meyers’ era of Ramses II ‘the Great’ at all suitable for King Solomon, glorious as it may have been for Egypt. Pharaoh Ramses II does not belong to the Late Bronze. Moreover, he lived some several centuries after King Solomon. See e.g. my article: The Complete Ramses II https://www.academia.edu/108993634/The_Complete_Ramses_II Dr Meyers then continues on to consider what he calls “The Great Problem” - great only in the minds of such biblical minimalisers as professor Israel Finkelstein: The Great Problem No archaeological evidence exists of a great Israelite kingdom in the 10th century. Israeli archaeologist Israel Finkelstein summarizes the problem: “Moreover, for all their reported wealth and power, David nor Solomon is mentioned in a single known Egyptian or Mesopotamian text. And the archaeological evidence in Jerusalem for the famous building projects of Solomon is nonexistent” (The Bible Unearthed, 2001, p. 128). The famous gates attributed to Solomon at Megiddo, Hazor, and Gezer have now been dated to a century later. The pottery finds at Megiddo actually date to the 9th century, and Carbon 14 dating “now seems to clinch the case” (Ibid., p.141). Even if we do assume they are Solomonic gates, there is still the problem of the Bible exaggerating his rule. It is also problematic that King Hiram ruled both during David and Solomon’s reign (see Giovanni Garbini, 1988, pp. 22-23). Finkelstein states, “The only certain historical Iron Age Hiram of Tyre was a king named Hirummu, who appears twice in the annals of the great Assyrian monarch Tiglath-pileser III in the 730s b.c. as paying tribute to Assyria” (David and Solomon, 2006, p. 173). Peter James states that the Megiddo Late Bronze Age Stratum VIIA has luxury finds, but Stratum IV, Iron Age IIA, which is Solomon’s time [sic], is devoid of luxury—not a single gold item was found (Centuries of Darkness, 1993, pp. 191, 200). The excavations at Tyre did not find anything great at the time of Solomon (p. 192). The famous Solomonic Gates are also found at Ashdod, a Philistine city (p. 190). Solomon’s Temple matches the Late Bronze Age (p. 197). Ashlar masonry was also Late Bronze Age (p. 198), and the description of the furnishing of Solomon’s Temple corresponds to the 12th century (p. 198). Trade with Egypt and the Hittites described in I Kings 10:29 fts the Late Bronze Age. Mining at Timna with an Egyptian temple and materials are from 19th and 20th dynasties (p. 201). Sir Mortimer Wheeler stated concerning the Timna or Solomon’s mines, “In spite of traditional associations of King Solomon with the mines and landscape, the great king is probably the most eminent absentee from the archaeological sequence” (James, 1993, p. 202). Some minimalists go to the extreme and say David and Solomon never existed, the stories are all made up, but in 1993, they found at Tel Dan a stela that mentions the “house of David.” Finkelstein takes the middle ground and concludes, “For the now familiar story of David and Solomon is neither a straightforward historical record nor a wholly imaginary myth” (David and Solomon, 2006, p. 22). If we follow strict biblical chronology that Solomon ruled 971 to 931 b.c., the archaeological evidence shows the stories of Solomon are not true. There was no great kingdom from Egypt to the Euphrates River, and there is no evidence of great buildings or great wealth. So is the Bible completely wrong? The key is chronology. If we adhere to a strict chronology, we are in big trouble. [End of quote] We certainly “are in big trouble” if “we adhere to” the conventional Sothic-based chronology. Using that faulty alignment we are going to find virtually nothing. Apart from the C10th BC King Solomon, well-known to us from the Scriptures, who belonged to the Late Bronze II Age of archaeology, we have various other historical manifestations of him as shown in my first two mentioned articles above. He was: Gudea of Lagash (Lachish); Ibal-piel, son of Dadusha (David); Senenmut (Solomon) in Egypt; Jabin (Ibni), perhaps, of Hazor; Qoheleth of the OT. Plus there are those all-important EA references to Bît Šulman, “House of Solomon” – these being on a scientific par with the Tel Dan evidence for the “House of David”. The fictitious versions of King Solomon While there are probably numerous of these, several have struck me. The first one is a supposed BC character, and the others are supposed AD entities. (i) Solon of Athens In my article, “Solomon and Sheba”, written for: Society for Interdisciplinary Studies CHRONOLOGY AND CATASTROPHISM REVIEW 1997:1 I proferred this suggestion: APPENDIX B SOLOMON IN GREEK FOLKLORE There is a case in Greek ‘history’ of a wise lawgiver who nonetheless over-organised his country, to the point of his being unable to satisfy either rich or poor, and who then went off travelling for a decade (notably in Egypt). This was Solon, who has come down to us as the first great Athenian statesman. Plutarch [115] tells that, with people coming to visit Solon every day, either to praise him or to ask him probing questions about the meaning of his laws, he left Athens for a time, realising that ‘In great affairs you cannot please all parties’. According to Plutarch: ‘[Solon] made his commercial interests as a ship-owner an excuse to travel and sailed away ... for ten years from the Athenians, in the hope that during this period they would become accustomed to his laws. He went first of all to Egypt and stayed for a while, as he mentions himself ‘where the Nile pours forth its waters by the shore of Canopus’.’ We recall Solon's intellectual encounters with the Egyp¬tian priests at Heliopolis and Saïs (in the Nile Delta), as described in Plutarch's ‘Life of Solon’ and Plato's ‘Timaeus’ [116]. The chronology and parentage of Solon were disputed even in ancient times [117]. Since he was a wise statesman, an intellectual (poet, writer) whose administrative reforms, though brilliant, eventually led to hardship for the poor and disenchantment for the wealthy; and since Solon's name is virtually identical to that of ‘Solomon’; and since he went to Egypt (also to Cyprus, Sidon and Lydia) for about a decade at the time when he was involved in the shipping business, then I suggest that ‘Solon’ of the Greeks was their version of Solomon, in the mid-to-late period of his reign. The Greeks picked up the story and transferred it from Jerusalem to Athens, just as they (or, at least Herodotus) later confused Sennacherib's attack on Jerusalem (c. 700 BC), by relocating it to Pelusium in Egypt [118]. Much has been attributed to the Greeks that did not belong to them - e.g. Breasted [119] made the point that Hatshep¬sut's marvellous temple structure was a witness to the fact that the Egyptians had developed architectural styles for which the later Greeks would be credited as originators. Given the Greeks' tendency to distort history, or to appropriate inven¬tions, one would not expect to find in Solon a perfect, mirror-image of King Solomon. Thanks to historical revisions [120], we now know that the ‘Dark Age’ between the Mycenaean (or Heroic) period of Greek history (concurrent with the time of Hatshepsut) and the Archaic period (that commences with Solon), is an artificial construct. This makes it even more plausible that Hatshepsut and Solomon were contemporaries of ‘Solon’. The tales of Solon's travels to Egypt, Sidon and Lydia (land of the Hittites) may well reflect to some degree Solomon's desire to appease his foreign women - Egyptian, Sidonian and Hittite - by building shrines for them (I Kings 11: 1, 7-8). Both Solomon and Solon are portrayed as being the wisest amongst the wise. In the pragmatic Greek version Solon prayed for wealth rather than wisdom - but ‘justly acquired wealth’, since Zeus punishes evil [121]. In the Hebrew version, God gave ‘riches and honour’ to Solomon because he had not asked for them, but had prayed instead for ‘a wise and discerning mind’, to enable him properly to govern his people (I Kings 3:12-13). (ii) King Charlemagne Here I can include only a small amount of what I wrote on the subject in my article: Solomon and Charlemagne (2) Solomon and Charlemagne Emperor Charlemagne’s life bears some uncanny likenesses to that of the ancient King Solomon of Israel and his family. The emperor Charlemagne has indeed been likened to King Solomon of old, e.g. by historian H. Daniel-Rops (The Church in the Dark Ages, p. 395), who calls him “a witness of God, after the style of Solomon …”, and he has been spoken of in terms of the ancient kings of Israel; whilst Charlemagne’s father, Pepin the Short, was hailed as “the new king David”. Charlemagne, too, appears sometimes as a larger-than-life king, almost too good to be true. His coronation on Christmas Day of 800 AD can seem to be just too neat and perfect. He was, according to Daniel-Rops (ibid., p. 390), “… the heaven-sent man, for whom Europe was waiting …”. And: (p. 401): “Who in the world fitted this role more than this glamorous personage, who set every man’s imagination afire and who seemed so much larger than life?” Charlemagne is assigned to the period known as the Dark Ages (c. 600-900 AD); a period somewhat lacking in archaeology – and there is precious little evidence for the many buildings that this famous king is supposed to have had erected. (See further on) Admittedly, the anomalies and contradictions associated with virtually every aspect of the life of Charlemagne, from his birth to his death, are evident for all to consider. Other striking likenesses to the persons of the Old Testament, apart from that of Charlemagne’s father king Pepin’s being like king David; are his mother, Bertha or Bertrada, reminding of Bathsheba; Charlemagne’s wife, “Desideria”, reminding of the “Queen of Sheba”; and Charlemagne’s colourful eastern friend and ally, Harun al-Raschid, most definitely like Solomon’s ally, King Hiram of Tyre. The last I believe to have been - as King Solomon most certainly was - a real historical person. See how King Solomon’s glorious Jerusalem, with the technical assistance of the great King Hiram, became medieval Baghdad, under the direction of Harun al-Raschid: Original Baghdad was Jerusalem (4) Original Baghdad was Jerusalem This archaeologically non-existent Baghdad, Madinat-al-Salam, “City of Peace”, was merely an appropriation of Solomon and Hiram’s Jerusalem, meaning “City of Peace”. Charlemagne’s Father, Pepin, “the new David” D. Fraioli tells of Pepin at his peak (Joan of Arc and the Hundred Years War, p. 46): “An aura of prestige now surrounded the king, whom the pope called the “new king David” …”. Gregory of Tours had, as we shall read below, spoken similarly of king Clovis I, of the Merovingian dynasty. This traditional likening of Frankish kings to the ancient Davidic kings immediately raises the important point to be considered in this article concerning a sacred attitude held in regard to French kings, and this might go a long way towards accounting for the phenomenon of Charlemagne. Let us take a relevant section on this from Fraioli’s book (pp. 43-45): THE FRENCH TRADITION France developed by far the most sacred mythology around its kingship of all the kingdoms in western Europe, although the earliest known coronations occurred in Visigothic Spain and Ireland. The sacred mythology of French kingship, which became known as “the religion of the monarchy”, first emerged during the Merovingian dynasty, in the context of a baptismal anointing rather than a sacred coronation, when Clovis, king of the Franks, converted to Christianity. …. Fraioli will however, in a later section on Hincmar (d. 882), suggest that this whole notion of sacred kingship was a late tradition, both mythical and “fabricated”. Here is what she has to say about it there (pp. 47-48): Hincmar, archbishop of Reims from 845 to 882, was a learned theologian and nimble politician, whose fame in the development of sacred kingship rests on his introduction of the legend of the Holy Ampulla into the history of Clovis, four centuries after the fact. In an effort to prove the continuity of Frankish kingship and, it is commonly believed, to challenge the influence of the abbey of Saint Denis – then successfully fusing its own history with that of the monarchy – Hincmar authorized a new myth. He is often believed to have fabricated the story himself in an attempt to expand the importance of the see of Reims. In all likelihood, he did not invent it, although he had confessed to forging other documents. The myth made the astonishing assertion that the liquid used to consecrate Frankish kings was of divine origin. A dove, the Christian symbol of the Holy Spirit, had allegedly delivered the Ampulla, or vial, of sacred liquid in its beak, when the bustling crowd at Clovis’ baptism had prevented the bearer of the baptismal oil from a timely arrival at the ceremony. Through this myth the election of French kings was seen as the will of God. Furthermore, the continuity of their rule was guaranteed by an inexhaustible supply of anointing balm in the Holy Ampulla, which could anoint French kings to the end of time. [End of quote] This charming story may have Old Testament origins in the miraculous preservation, in liquid form, of the sacred fire as recorded in 2 Maccabees 1:18-36, for the time of the biblical Nehemiah, whom we have found apparently making an anachronistic ‘return visit’ at the time of the Prophet Mohammed, BC dragged into AD time: Two Supposed Nehemiahs: BC time and AD time https://www.academia.edu/12429764/Two_Supposed_Nehemiahs_BC_time_and_AD_time The legend of Hincmar may perhaps have arisen out of a confused transmission of the original true historical account relating to the governor Nehemiah. I continue now with Fraioli’s earlier section on The French Tradition, where she briefly considers Clovis I (pp. 44-45), and then proceeds on to Pepin (p. 46): Clovis I (d. 511) and the Franks …. At his baptism, King Clovis was anointed with a holy balm, or salve … in a ceremony blending kingship and religion. According to the contemporary chronicle of Gregory of Tours, the anointing of Clovis occurred by the grace of God, prompting Gregory to draw an analogy between Clovis and the sacred kingship of David in the Old Testament. …. Pepin the Short (d. 768) …. Pepin the Short … receives the credit for introducing the ritual of sacred anointing, or consecration, into the installation ceremony for French kings. …. As Patrick Simon has stated, Pepin’s innovation consisted of “legitimizing through a religious ceremony a power obtained by force ...”. …. The union of king and clergy provided mutual benefit …. An aura of prestige now surrounded the king, whom the pope called the “new David” …. [End of quotes] Again, we recall the famous anointing with “the horn of oil” of David the shepherd, the youngest son of Jesse, by Samuel the high priest and prophet, after Samuel had rejected one by one David’s seven older brothers (1 Samuel 16:1-13). After the death of Saul (Samuel was also dead by now) David was anointed again, at Hebron, as king of all Israel (2 Samuel 5:3). Now Pepin, likewise, was twice crowned (Fraioli, p. 46): “The second coronation, celebrated at Saint-Denis in 754 [AD], cleverly reconnected Pepin’s reign to the Merovingians through his wife, big-foot Bertha, a descendant of Clovis, which provided fictional continuity to French kingship”. King David is sometimes found going so far, it seems, as to act out the priest’s rôle, as for example when he had triumphantly returned the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem, and he subsequently offered “burnt offerings and the offering of well-being before the Lord” (2 Samuel 6:17). Both David and Pepin were warrior-kings and men of great personal courage. Pepin is famous, in his youthful days, like David, for his courage against wild animals, including lions. Daniel-Rops (op. cit., p. 387) tells of it: “A well-known picture, which was already very popular in the Middle Ages, has impressed on our minds the features of this thickset, broad-shouldered little man who, for a wager, amused himself by separating a lion and a bull who were in the middle of a fight in the circus arena”. In the case of David, this courage is manifest, not “in the circus arena”, but in the field. More serious, and we might say less frivolous, was David’s situation, when the giant, Goliath, was challenging the armies of Israel. Then David said to Saul (1 Samuel 17:34-36): ‘Your servant used to keep sheep for his father; and whenever a lion or a bear came, and took a lamb from the flock, I went after it and struck it down, rescuing the lamb from its mouth; and if it turned against me, I would catch it by the jaw, strike it down and kill it. Your servant has killed both lions and bears; and this uncircumcised Philistine shall be like one of them, since he has defied the armies of the living God’. Pepin was nicknamed “the Short”. Was David also short? He probably was not of very tall stature. When the prophet Samuel came to Jesse’s boys, to anoint the one amongst them whom God had chosen, Samuel had been most impressed by Eliab, who was apparently of a good height (1 Samuel 16:6-7). So, we could probably draw the conclusion that, when the Lord advised Samuel not to look on “the height of [the candidate’s] stature” in making his choice, that David, the youngest of the boys, who eventually was chosen, was not that very tall. But David was of fine appearance, nonetheless: “Now he was ruddy, and had beautiful eyes, and was handsome” (v. 12). Charlemagne, “after the style of Solomon” His Beginnings Like Solomon, the young son, Charlemagne (said to be 26 at the time), succeeded his father. But some hazy legend seems to surround Charlemagne’s mother and the king’s own early years. Thus Daniel-Rops (op. cit., p. 391): What had he done, this boy who was promised to such a lofty destiny, between that day in 742 when Bertha, the daughter of the Count of Laon – the ‘Bertha of the big feet’ of the chansons de gestes – brought him into the world in some royal villa or other in Austrasia, and the premature hour of his succession? No one really knows, and Einhard of all people, who faithfully chronicled his reign, is strangely discreet about his hero’s early years. [End of quote] In the case of Solomon, he was not born out of wedlock, as it is thought of Charlemagne. Rather it was Bathsheba’s child who had died as a result of king David’s sin of adultery with her (2 Samuel 12:16-23). Solomon himself was the child of ‘consolation’ for the pair after the sad death of this un-named child (v. 24). Now were, perhaps, the French 'Songs' (or Chansons), the Song of Roland (La Chanson de Roland) and the "Songs of heroic deeds [or lineages]" (Chansons de gestes), inspired by, or even in part based upon, the biblical “Song of Songs” or “Canticle of Canticles” (also known as the “Song of Solomon”); a love poem that could well have inspired some of the famous French chivalric notions? Was the ‘wisdom of Oliver’ in the Song of Roland inspired by the Wisdom of Solomon? “Oliver urges caution; wisdom and restraint are part of what makes him a good knight”: http://www.gradesaver.com/song-of-roland/study-guide/section2/ Did the “giants” in these Chansons perhaps arise from the encounter between David and the giant Goliath? Wikipedia tells (article “Chanson de geste”): Composed in Old French and apparently intended for oral performance by jongleurs, the chansons de geste narrate legendary incidents (sometimes based on real events) in the history of France during the eighth and ninth centuries, the age of Charles Martel, Charlemagne and Louis the Pious, with emphasis on their conflicts with the Moors and Saracens. To these historical legends, fantasy is gradually added; giants, magic, and monsters increasingly appear among the foes along with Muslims. …. [End of quote] His Birthplace More than a dozen places are claiming the honour to be the birthplace of Charles. The year of birth varies between 742 and 747 AD. Bertrada, the mother of Charles, was said to be a Bretonian princess, an Hungarian noble woman, or a member of the imperial family of Byzantium. The competition for the throne between Charles and his brother, Carloman, is also very much like what we find in the biblical account of the challenge to the throne by Solomon’s brother, Adonijah (1 Kings 1:5-10). The mother may perhaps have been complicit in this (cf. 2:9). According to Daniel-Rops (op. cit., p. 395): “At the time of [Charles’] accession this question [of Italy, Rome and the Lombards] had been considerably confused owing to the political mistakes of Queen Bertha, his mother”. Solomon, like Carloman, seems to have been twice elected king (accession and coronation), and in the first case, in both instances, the mother appears to have played an ambiguous part. Again, when Adonijah’s bid for the throne had failed, he cunningly approached Bathsheba to ask Solomon to give him the beautiful Abishag for his wife (2:13-18). When Bathsheba did approach Solomon, the latter acted out the pretence of complying with his mother’s request (2:2): “King Solomon answered his mother, ‘And why do you ask Abishag the Shunammite for Adonijah? Ask for him the kingdom as well! For he is my elder brother; ask not only for him but also for the priest Abiathar and for Joab the son of Zeruiah!’ [both of whom had supported Adonijah in his revolt against David and Solomon]”. This situation can perhaps be likened to the case of what Daniel-Rops (op. cit., ibid.) has referred to as “these manoeuvres when Queen Bertha had married her elder son … to Desiderius’s [King of Pavia’s] daughter, Desideria”. Though, in the biblical story, Adonijah apparently was not actually a son of Bathsheba’s (1 Kings 1:5), nor of course did he manage to fulfil his wish of marrying Abishag, despite his desire for her. “Desideria” is certainly a most appropriate appellation for the much-desired Abishag. And soon I shall be showing, from another parallel situation between Solomon and Charlemagne, that Desideria well equates with this Abishag. Of course Solomon was being completely sarcastic in his reply to Adonijah’s request via Bathsheba. The wise king fully appreciated the implications of the scheming Adonijah’s attaining the hand of David’s favourite, Abishag. Thus he added, chillingly (vv. 23-25): ‘So may God do to me, and more also [a typical idiom of the time], for Adonijah has devised this scheme at the risk of his life! Now therefore as the Lord lives, who has established me and placed me on the throne of my father David, and who has made me a house as he promised, today Adonijah shall be put to death’. So King Solomon sent Benaiah son of Jehoiada; he struck him down, and he died. Conveniently, likewise, Charlemagne’s brother died suddenly (Daniel-Rops, p. 391): “But scarcely three years had elapsed when an unexpected death completely broke these shackles …. Charles claimed his brother’s heritage and thus rebuilt the unity of the paternal realm under his leadership”. Solomon’s sarcasm in the face of Bathsheba’s request may even have its faint glimmer in the case of the chaffing compliance of the young Charles towards his own mother (ibid., pp. 394-395): “Despite his twenty-five years Charles had appeared to defer to his energetic mother’s wishes. But he fretted under the restraint”. His Natural Qualities Like Solomon, Charlemagne was a most gifted individual, and the perfect king material (Daniel-Rops, p. 392): Charles was … throughout his life – quick, far-sighted, and energetic. In these instinctive qualities lies the secret of his incomparably fruitful labour, and, to their service, a never-failing vigour lent an activity which was truly prodigious. …. And he had other complementary qualities, which decisively defined his grandeur: prudence, moderation, a realistic appreciation of the possible, a mistrust of unconsidered actions. It is the Emperor Augustus whom Charlemagne recalls, rather than Caesar or Alexander. Or is it rather king Solomon “whom Charlemagne [most closely] recalls”? As for “prudence” and his other cardinal virtues, as mentioned in the quote above, well, was not Solomon the first person to list these virtues (Wisdom of Solomon 8:7)? …. Archaeological considerations For AD history to be fully convincing and to be made to rest on firm foundations, it will need to undergo a rigorous revision similar to the one that scholars have been undertaking for BC history, with the application of a revised stratigraphy. There may be some indications that the history of Charlemagne is yet far from having been established on such firm stratigraphical foundations. The following will be based upon the research of some pioneering European revisionists (Illig; Niemitz; Topper) who have bravely embarked upon a re-assessment of AD time. Whilst I may not necessarily agree with all of their conclusions, or their revised models, I would applaud them for having undertaken so necessary a revision. Charlemagne’s Economy The findings of historians regarding Charles’ economy show extreme contradictions: Some concede abundant wealth to Charles, while others have to complain economic decay. Jan Beaufort writes (“Illig’s Hypothesis on Phantom Times – FAQ”: http://www.cybis.se/forfun/dendro/hollstein/hollstein0/beaufort/index.htm): Economy: The findings of historians regarding Charles' economy show extreme contradictions: Some concede abundant wealth to Charles, while others have to complain economic decay. [DeM 161 ff.] As Heinsohn has shown recently, coins attributed to Charles (or, likewise Charles the Bald-head) cannot be distinguished from the coins of Charles the Simple (898-929). According to Illig, Carolus Simplex has been a real Carolingian and the model for Charlemagne. The attribute "simplex" (= stupid, but likewise single, not-duplicated) has been used for the first time following the turn of the millennium. [Heinsohn (2001)] Charlemagne’s Capital City and His Cultural Achievements ‘The Carolingian Renaissance’, as Daniel-Rops calls it (The Church in the Dark Ages, p. 422), centred on Aix-la-Chapelle. But Aix-la-Chapelle is considered to have been a rather unusual geographical choice anyway: The vital centre of this Renaissance was Aix-la-Chapelle, the ancient ‘villa’ of Pepin the Short’s time, which was situated some distance off the great Roman roads. From 794 onwards Charlemagne made it into a Carolingian Versailles, judging from its intellectual atmosphere and the splendour of its appearance. The geographical position of this new capital has given rise to much discussion: why was this Rhineland area chosen, rather than some town in Gaul, or even Rome itself? …. Aix was the centre of the intellectual Renaissance; and the centre of Aix, and especially the Palatine school, was a kind of general headquarters of the mind, which influenced the entire empire …. [End of quote] Amongst this august group was Charlemagne himself, now “known as David”; this being about the only seemingly eastern factor in what comes across as a very European ‘club of gentlemen’ (ibid., p. 424): The leaders of this pleiade of scholars and cultured men formed a sort of club, a small, self-contained group. Historians are accustomed to call this group the Palatine Academy. Each of its members bore a pseudonym borrowed from antiquity. Charlemagne himself, who was not a whit averse to residing over this learned assembly, was known as David, which overestimated the power of the cantor of the Psalms and overrated even more outrageously the poetic talents of the son of Pepin! [End of quote] Charlemagne is also, like King Solomon, famed for his architectural achievements. Thus Daniel-Rops, p. 425: …. Because the building, decoration, and beautifying of the House of God was one of the major preoccupations of the master, architecture and the plastic arts developed so much that Dawson has been able to write: ‘Charlemagne founded a Holy Roman architecture as well as a Holy Roman Empire’. In fact, it was not only Roman, but followed tendencies which we have already noticed in the Merovingian epoch, mingling Eastern and remote Asiatic influence with the revival of classical features. But sadly - as somewhat also with king Solomon (but in his case due to centuries of destruction and looting, and also to the failure by archaeologists to identify Solomon’s era stratigraphically): “We no longer possess many examples of the architecture of this great reign”. [End of quote] Beaufort would concur with the fact of this dearth of architectural evidence (op. cit.): Buildings: As we know from the ancient texts, between 476 and 855 AD more than 1695 large buildings were erected, including 312 cathedrals, 1254 convents and 129 royal palaces. The historian Harald Braunfels: "Of all these buildings [until 1991] only 215 were examined by archaeologists. Artefacts were found only at a fraction of these buildings. One may count with ten fingers the number of buildings that still exist as a whole or as a significant fraction." [DeM 208] Publisher Heribert Illig, who has advanced the historical conspiracy theory known as the phantom time hypothesis, has made this observation about the “masterpiece of Carolignian architecture” (as told by Beaufort): Pfalzkapelle Aachen: The masterpiece of Carolingian architecture, the Chapel of St. Mary at Aachen (about 792-799) is unique. Its direct predecessor (Ravenna's San Vitale) had been erected some 200 years earlier. Buildings comparable to Aachen in style and technology were not erected until the advent of the Romanesque style in the 11th century. Consequently, Illig assumes the Pfalzkapelle to be a Romanesque building of the 11th century. [End of quote] In other words, Illig claims it to be quite anachronistic. His Burial and Tomb Jan Beaufort tells about this (op. cit.): Burial: Charles' burial place is the Pfalzkapelle at Aachen (his explicit will to find his grave beneath his father at Saint-Denis had been ignored). This contradicted the general prohibition of burials within churches, proclaimed by councils held under Charles at Aachen (809) and Mainz (813). [DeM 44 f.] And again: Tomb: Charles' tomb had been camouflaged so well (in fear of the raiding Normans) that it could not be localized for two centuries. In the year 1000 the emperor Otto III discovers the tomb. He finds Charles sitting on his throne. Again the tomb became forgotten until it was found once more and reopened by Friedrich Barbarossa. Then again, the tomb disappeared and was never found again. For comparison: The tomb of Otto I in the dome of Magdeburg has always been honoured - despite of all destructions and rebuilds of this church. [DeM 44 ff.] (iii) Suleiman the Magnificent As I wrote in my article: King Solomon and Suleiman (4) King Solomon and Suleiman King Suleiman I as “a second Solomon”, and “a new Solomon”. Suleiman the Magnificent, King of the Ottoman Turks --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “Suleiman … is therefore called the second Solomon by many Islamic scholars …”. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- King Suleiman ‘the Magnificent’, a supposedly C16th AD Ottoman emperor, was, according to this source http://everything2.com/title/Suleiman+the+Magnificent “a new Solomon”. And, similarly, Suleiman was “the second Solomon”. A new Solomon is risen Süleyman I was everything a magnificent ruler should be. He was just, making the right decisions in cases set before him. [Cf. I Kings 3:16-28] He was brave, leading his armies in battle until he had greatly expanded his sultanate. He was wealthy, living in luxury and turning his capital Istanbul into a splendid city. And he was cultured, his court teeming with philosophers and artists, and the Sultan himself mastering several arts, especially that of poetry. …. Süleyman ascended to the throne in 1520 and stayed there for all of 46 years. During his reign he furthered the work of his forefathers until he had made the empire of the Ottomans into one of the world’s greatest. The Sultan was named after Solomon, who was described as the perfect ruler in the Quran. Like the legendary king of the Jews, Süleyman was seen as just and wise, and a worthy follower of his namesake. He is therefore called the second Solomon by many Islamic scholars, although he was the first of that name among the Ottomans. Like the Solomon of old, this ruler was surrounded by splendour and mystery, and his time is remembered as the zenith of his people. …. [End of quote] Problems with Islamic ‘History’ In some cases, Islam and its scholars have shown a complete disregard for historical perspective. I had cause to discuss this in my review of Islamic scholar Ahmed Osman’s book, Out of Egypt. The Roots of Christianity Revealed, in my series: Osman's ‘Osmosis’ of Moses (4) Osman's Radical Reinterpretation of Moses (4) Osman's 'Osmosis' of Moses. Part Two: Christ The King his books being a diabolical historical mish-mash in which the author, Osman, sadly attempts to herd a millennium or more of history into the single Eighteenth Dynasty of ancient Egypt. But getting right to the heart of the situation, the historical problems pertaining to the Prophet Mohammed himself are legendary. My own contributions, amongst many, to this subject, are, for example: Biography of the Prophet Mohammed (Muhammad) Seriously Mangles History (4) Biography of the Prophet Mohammed (Muhammad) Seriously Mangles History Scholars have long pointed out the historical problems associated with the life of the Prophet Mohammed and the history of Islam, with some going even so far as to cast doubt upon Mohammed’s actual existence. Biblico-historical events, normally separated the one from the other by many centuries, are re-cast as contemporaneous in the Islamic texts. Muslim author, Ahmed Osman, has waxed so bold as to squeeze, into the one Egyptian dynasty, the Eighteenth, persons supposed to span more than one and a half millennia. Now, as I intend to demonstrate in this article, biblico-historical events that occurred during the neo-Assyrian era of the C8th BC, and then later on, in the Persian era, have found their way into the biography of Mohammed supposedly of the C7th AD. Added to all this confusion is the highly suspicious factor of a ‘second’ Nehemiah, sacrificing at the site of the Temple of Yahweh in Jerusalem during a ‘second’ Persian period, all contemporaneous with the Prophet of Islam himself. The whole scenario is most reminiscent of the time of the original (and, I believe, of the only) Nehemiah of Israel. And so I wrote in an article, now up-dated as: Two Supposed Nehemiahs: BC time and AD time https://www.academia.edu/12429764/Two_Supposed_Nehemiahs_BC_time_and_AD_time This … later Nehemiah “offers a sacrifice on the site of the Temple”, according to Étienne Couvert (La Vérité sur les Manuscripts de la Mer Morte, 2nd ed, Éditions de Chiré, p. 98. My translation). “He even seems to have attempted to restore the Jewish cult of sacrifice”, says Maxine Lenôtre (Mahomet Fondateur de L’Islam, Publications MC, p.111, quoting from S.W. Baron’s, Histoire d’Israël, T. III, p. 187. My translation), who then adds (quoting from the same source): “Without any doubt, a number of Jews saw in these events a repetition of the re-establishment of the Jewish State by Cyrus and Darius [C6th BC kings of ancient Persia] and behaved as the rulers of the city and of the country”. [End of quote] So, conceivably, the whole concept of a Persian (or Sassanian) empire at this time, with rulers named Chosroes, again reminiscent of the ancient Cyrus ‘the Great’, may need to be seriously questioned. Coins and Archaeology And how to “explain inscriptions on early Islamic coins – the ones that showed Muhammed meeting with a Persian emperor [Chosroes II] who supposedly died a century before”? http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/place-london/plain/A85654957 Emmet Scott, who asks “Were the Arab Conquests a Myth?”, also points out major anomalies relating to the coinage of this presumed period, and regarding the archaeology of Islam in general, though Scott does not go so far as to suggest that the Sassanian era duplicated the ancient Persian one: http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/160197/sec_id/160197 Note the remark [in Encyclopdaedia Iranica]: “The Arab-Sasanian coinages are not imitations,” but were “designed and manufactured by the same people as the late Sasanian issues.” We note also that the date provided on these artefacts is written in Persian script, and it would appear that those who minted the coins, native Persians, did not understand Arabic. We hear that under the Arabs the mints were “evidently allowed to go on as before,” and that there are “a small number of coins indistinguishable from the drahms of the last emperor, Yazdegerd III, dated during his reign but after the Arab capture of the cities of issue. It was only when Yazdegerd died (A.D. 651) [in the time of the Ummayad Caliph Mu'awiya] that some mark of Arab authority was added to the coinage.” (Ibid.) Even more puzzling is the fact that the most common coins during the first decades of Islamic rule were those of Yazdegerd's predecessor Chosroes II, and many of these too bear the Arabic inscription (written however, as we saw, in the Syriac script) besm Allah. Now, it is just conceivable that invading Arabs might have issued slightly amended coins of the last Sassanian monarch, Yazdegerd III, but why continue to issue money in the name of a previous Sassanian king (Chosroes II), one who, supposedly, had died ten years earlier? This surely stretches credulity. The Persian-looking Islamic coins are of course believed to date from the time of Umar (d. 664), one of the “Rightly-guided Caliphs” who succeeded Muhammad and supposedly conquered what became the Islamic Empire. Yet it has to be stated that there is no direct archaeological evidence for the existence either of Umar or any of the other “Rightly-guided” Caliphs Abu Bakr, Uthman or Ali. Not a brick, coin, or artifact of any kind bears the name of these men. Archaeologically, their existence is as unattested as Muhammad himself. …. [End of quote] But surely what Scott alleges about these early Caliphs, that: “Not a brick, coin, or artifact of any kind bears the name of these men”, cannot be applied to Suleiman the Magnificent himself, evidence of whose building works in, say Jerusalem, are considered to abound and to be easily identifiable. A typical comment would be this: “Jerusalem’s current walls were built under the orders of Suleiman the Magnificent between the years 1537 and 1541. Some portions were built over the ancient walls from 2,000 years ago. The walls were built to prevent invasions from local tribes and to discourage another crusade by Christians from Europe”: http://www.generationword.com/jerusalem101/4-walls-today.html Previously, I have discussed Greek appropriations of earlier ancient Near Eastern culture and civilization. But might Arabic Islam have, in turn, appropriated the earlier Byzantine Greek architecture, and perhaps some of its archaeology? There appears to be plenty written on this subject, e.g.: “The appropriation of Byzantine elements into Islamic architecture”, by Patricia Blessing, “art and architecture of the Muslim World, focusing on trans-cultural interactions in the Middle Ages, the appropriation of Byzantine elements into Islamic architecture, the transfer and authentication of relics in East and West, historical photographs of architecture and urban spaces”: http://cmems.stanford.edu/tags/appropriation-byzantine-elements-islamic-architecture And, again: http://www.daimonas.com/pages/byzantine-basis-persian.html “This page is related to the Byzantine origins of what are claimed to be "Islamic" ideas. This page is limited to showing the Byzantine/Greek basis of Sassanian ideas which were absorbed by the even less original Arabs who replaced the faith of Zoroaster with one more brutal; that of Mohammed”. A rock relief of Chosroes II at Taq-I Bustan “clearly shows the symbol which was to be appropriated by Islam, the crescent moon …”. As for the archaeology of the walls of the city of Jerusalem itself, relevant to Sultan Suleiman the supposed wall builder there, the exact identification of these various wall levels is highly problematical, as attested by Hershel Shanks, “The Jerusalem Wall That Shouldn’t Be There. Three major excavations fail to explain controversial remains”: http://members.bib-arch.org/publication.asp?PubID=BSBA&Volume=13&Issue=3&ArticleID=5 So perhaps art and architecture attributed to the direction of Suleiman the Magnificent might need to be seriously re-assessed for the purposes of authentication. Words are put into the mouth of a supposed Venetian visitor to the glorious kingdom of Suleiman the Magnificent that immediately remind me of the remarks made by the biblical Queen of Sheba upon her visit to the court of the truly magnificent King Solomon. Compare (http://everything2.com/title/Suleiman+the+Magnificent): “I know no State which is happier than this one. It is furnished with all God’s gifts. It controls war and peace; it is rich in gold, in people, in ships, and in obedience; no State can be compared with it. May God long preserve the most just of all Emperors.” The Venetian ambassador reports from Istanbul in 1525 with (I Kings 10:6-9): Then [Sheba] said to the king [Solomon]: “It was a true report which I heard in my own land about your words and your wisdom. However I did not believe the words until I came and saw with my own eyes; and indeed the half was not told me. Your wisdom and prosperity exceed the fame of which I heard. Happy are your men and happy are these your servants, who stand continually before you and hear your wisdom! Blessed be the Lord your God, who delighted in you, setting you on the throne of Israel! Because the Lord has loved Israel forever, therefore He made you king, to do justice and righteousness.” And in the article, “How Sultan Süleyman became ‘Kanuni [Lawgiver]’”, we find Suleiman likened to, not only King Solomon, again, but also to King Solomon’s law-giving alter ego, Solon, and to Solomon’s contemporary (revised) Hammurabi: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/how-sultan-suleyman-became-kanuni.aspx?pageI The first written, complete code of laws is nearly 4,000 years old, from the time of Hammurabi, the king of Babylon (r. 1792 B.C. to 1750 B.C.), although fragments of legal codes from other cities in the Mesopotamian area have been discovered. Hammurabi is still honored today as a lawgiver. In the Bible, it was Moses whom the Jews singled out as a lawgiver and among the ancient Greeks, Draco and Solon. …. …. Süleyman oversaw the codification of a new general code of laws. Not only were previous codes of law taken into account, new cases and analogies were added. Fines and punishments were regularized and some of the more severe punishments were mitigated. …. The kanunnames are collections of kanuns or statutes that are basically short summaries of decrees issued by the sultan. The decrees in turn were made on the basis of a particular individual, place or event but when issued, these particular details were not included. The publication of such a general kanunname throughout the empire was the responsibility of the nişancı, an official whose duty it was to attach the sultan’s imperial signature on the decrees issued in his name. …. The sultan held the judicial power and judges had to follow what he decreed. …. What Kanuni Sultan Süleyman did to earn his sobriquet as ‘lawgiver’ has often been compared to the just ruler King Solomon, from the Old Testament. [End of quote]

Sunday, February 9, 2025

Many textual likenesses between Ezekiel and Zechariah suggest this to have been the one prophet

by Damien F. Mackey “Interpreter's Bible speaks of Ezekiel's "young admirer, Zechariah". Fairbairn, commenting on Ezek. 21: 26, "Remove the mitre", says that Zechariah in his attitude to the high priest Joshua "took up the matter, as it were, where Ezekiel had left it". …”. Cameron Mackay That Zechariah may have been the same priest-prophet as Ezekiel was what I vaguely hinted at in the very beginning of my article: Elihu a contemporary of the prophet Ezekiel (4) Elihu a contemporary of the prophet Ezekiel “The prophet Zechariah has certain likenesses to the mysterious prophet Ezekiel”. In that article I confidently identified Ezekiel “the son of Buzi” (Ezekiel 1:3) with young Elihu “son of Barakel the Buzite”, of the Book of Job (32:2). Then, in my next article: Some rabbinic literature has Ezekiel as a son of Jeremiah (4) Some rabbinic literature has Ezekiel as a son of Jeremiah in which I further (but only tentatively) identified Ezekiel/Elihu with the Rechabite, “Jaazaniah son of Jeremiah” (Jeremiah 35:3), I was somewhat more forceful about a possible connection of this holy man (Ezekiel) with Zechariah: In that article I also note that: “The prophet Zechariah has certain likenesses to the mysterious prophet Ezekiel”. The textual likenesses are so numerous, in fact, that one feels much inclined to factor in the priest-prophet Zechariah as being, too, the priest-prophet Ezekiel. And, if Ezekiel is also Elihu, then we may have a patronymic connection between Elihu’s ancestor, Barachel, and Zechariah’s Berechiah (Zechariah 1:1). and: If Zechariah were also Ezekiel/Elihu (Jaazaniah), as I suspect, then he, as the final martyr in Jerusalem before Jesus Christ (Matthew 23:35), really did fulfil Jeremiah 35:19: ‘… shall never lack a man to stand before me’. What I want to focus on entirely in this present article are the textual similarities between Ezekiel and Zechariah, as many have already noted. The incredible similarities between virtually the entire Book of Nahum with various parts of Isaiah were enough to convince me, in my university thesis (2007), that Nahum (Jonah) was also the great prophet Isaiah. See also my article: Prophet Nahum as Isaiah Comforted (5) Comparing Isaiah and Deutero-Isaiah Styles The usual view of things, as evidenced in Cameron Mackay’s quote above, would be to consider Zechariah, a supposed minor prophet, as simply an “admirer” of the prophet Ezekiel from a good half century later. But I have the prophetic life of Ezekiel covering the Chaldean and Medo-Persian eras - when Zechariah taught - and potentially beyond that, into the early Maccabean times. Let us read some of Cameron Mackay’s comparisons (1968), taken from: https://biblicalstudies.org.uk/pdf/eq/1968-4_197.pdf ZECHARIAH IN RELATION TO EZEKIEL 40-48 by CAMERON MACKAY MR. MACKAY'S studies in the book of Ezekiel are always fresh and fascinating. Here the earliest "commentary" on the book (especially on chapters 40.-48) is found in the prophecies of Zechariah. EZEKIEL and Zechariah share century, priestly stock, and Babylonian background, but the 50 years which separate their activities make personal contact unlikely. On the orthodox view that the differences between Zech. 1-8 and 9-14 are accounted for by supposing those sections the work respectively of the young and old Zechariah, his birth would have been around 550 B.C.. when Ezekiel had been silent 20 years-a not very probable dormancy if he were still alive. What the circumstances suggest is that the minor prophet grew up in the shadow of the major's repute, and that between the Return of 538 B.C. and his mission in 520 B.C. the repatriated scion of priests studied his fellow-exile's prospectus with built-in interest in the temple, the desire of his eyes (Ezek. 24: 21) in the land of desire (Zech. 7: 14). In fact echoes of Ezekiel found by Zechariah's commentators run into three figures. In the 18 verses from 7: 9 to 8: 12 Driver in Century Bible notes "execute judgment of truth" (Ezek. 18: 8), "hearts as an adamant stone" (3: 9; 11: 19). "they shall cry, and I will not hear" (8: 18), "no man passed through nor returned" (35: 7). "I will dwell in the midst" (43: 9), "they shall be my people,' and I will be their God" (11: 20 al.)’, "the earth shall yield her increase" (34: 27). Study of the mysterious "seven eyes" (Zech. 3: 9; 4: 10) must begin with Ezekiel's eye-spangled Chariot and seven angels (9: 2; cf. Rev. 5: 6), study of the flying roll (5 : 1) with 'Ezekiel's roll of a book (2: 9). Interpreter's Bible speaks of Ezekiel's "young admirer, Zechariah". Fairbairn, commenting on Ezek. 21: 26, "Remove the mitre", says that Zechariah in his attitude to the high priest Joshua "took up the matter, as it were. where Ezekiel had left it". Mitchell in I.C.C. regards Zech. 2: 8, "After glory he sent me", as a condensed claim of mandate corresponding to Ezekiel's, who after his inaugural vision of the Glory received the commission, "I send thee", and adds that in v. 10 "the prophet is looking forward to the fulfilment of . . . 43: 111,", while v. 13 requires that "men should greet with awful attention ... the return of Yahweh to his sanctuary, as Ezekiel describes it". The critical disinclination to allow chaps. 9-14 to the contemporary of Haggai leaves unaffected their Ezekielian background, now indeed even more marked-not surprisingly as the concern shifts from the day of small things (4: 10) to that of the King of all the earth (14: 9). The oracles against Phoenicia (9: 2-4), Egypt (10: 11), goodly cedars (11: If.), shepherds (11: 15-17), and professional prophets (B: 2-4), the symbolism of the two sticks (11: 7-14), the going forth of Jehovah with earthquake to fight against the nations (12: 9; 14: 3ff.) are immediately reminiscent of the earlier seer. The seemingly superfluous note that the Mount of Olives "is before Jerusalem on the east" (14: 4) is a reminder that there the departing Glory lingered (Ezek. 11: 23) and from the east it would return (43: 2). The emphasis on David's house (12: 7-13: 1) recalls the focusing of Ezekiel's hopes on "David", and the associated introduction of Levites their position in the oblation of 40-48. The fountain for sin (13: 1) and the living waters summer and winter (14: 8) are generally regarded as dependent on the "clean water" of 'Ezek. 36: 25 plus the sanctuary river of 47, while 13: 2, according to I.C.C., is, once again, "simply summarising Ezekiel". For chaps. 9-14, on which the New Testament imprimatur is so marked, the date question may here be left aside, particularly in face of a recent finding that no definite dating can be achieved and that it is more useful to concentrate on the contents. …. Our present interest is in the relation of Ezek 40-48 to the book of Zechariah as it stands, wherein the first part encourages the immediately practicable work as prelude to the vista enlarged on in the second part. The repatriates had rebuilt the altar on Moriah without, it is clear from Ezra 3, idea of acting on Ezekiel's directions: they followed the laws of 'Moses, including sons of Ithamar, i.e. non-Zadokites, in the priesthood (8: 2), retaining evening sacrifice (et. 46: 13-15) and all the set feasts. But adversaries. foreigners deported to Samaria, halted the work on the temple. Then Darius in his second year authorized its restart, but the Jews were now murmuring. "The time is not come for the Lord's house to be built" (Hag. 1: 2). Among 'the causes of their discouragement commentators point to the contrast of their plight with the glowing promises of Second Isaiah. But Zechariah's contemporaries would have thought more generally of "the words which the Lord of hosts had sent by his Spirit through the former prophets" (7: 12). and the evidence detailed above suggests that Ezekiel as much as, or more than, Isaiah provided the disheartening contrast. Zechariah's task was to encourage his community to go ahead as they had 'begun, both with construction plans and sacerdotal …. Right away, connection with the temple-vision is made in the reappearance of a distinctive feature characteristic of Zechariah's visions, the intermediary angel who acts as instructor and guide …. In 1: 16 the angel conveys assurance that God's house shall be built in Jerusalem and a measuring line stretched over that city. Yet when a young man goes out with line to measure Jerusalem he is rebuked for setting his sights too low (2: 1-5). …. The repatriated community may well have been a microcosm of the various views later held about the plan, and the young enthusiast as a supporter of the cubit theory could have been investigating the possibilities of a city 11 miles square with the sanctuary portion transposed so that temple might adjoin city. Reminiscence of the earlier seer is apparent both in the angel's words and in the attached oracle (vv. 6-13) which we have seen interpreted by Mitchell as continuing Ezekiel's mandate and looking to the fulfilment of 43: Iff. Driver here notes as echoes "villages without walls" (38: 11). "I will be the glory in the midst of her" (43: 2-5), "1 have spread you abroad" (17: 21). ''they shall be a spoil to those that served them" (39: 10), and his, "I will dwell in the midst of thee" (43: 9). …. In consonance the final chapter repeats in "Jerusalem shall dwell securely" (v. 11) a favourite Ezekielian phrase used of those dwelling in unwalled villages on the mountains of Israel (3S: S. 11). In reeds Ezekiel's oblation is some 50 miles square-a city, like Greater Nineveh with its much cattle, of three days' journey (Jonah 3: 3; 4: Il) …. Such emulation is indicated in Zech. 12: 6f. and 14: 10, where Jerusalem is to "dwell in her place" or "be inhabited 0n her site", curiously specified in the former passage as "in Jerusalem". The tautology is explicable if the prophet is envisaging an enlarged Jerusalem wherein the historical city is to retain its pre-eminence. …. [End of quotes] And there are many more such comparisons to be read as Cameron Mackay’s article continues. But he is by no means the only one to have observed such likenesses between the text of Ezekiel and that of the Book of Zechariah. See also, for example: https://journals.co.za/doi/pdf/10.10520/EJC85605 An abundance of living waters: The intertextual relationship between Zechariah 14:8 and Ezekiel 47:1-12 M D Terblanche (UFS) ABSTRACT Zechariah 14:8 and Ezekiel 47:1-12 have more in common than an allusion to a common stock of images. Consequently our understanding of Zechariah 14:8 can be fruitfully informed by the perspectives of the study of intertextuality. This paper considers the question whether the author of Zechariah 14:8 wanted to replace Ezekiel 47:1-12. He seemingly assumes that the reader is acquainted with the latter text. Although one cannot speak of the displacement of Ezekiel 47:1-12, Zechariah 14:1-15 seems to be a commentary on the former text. The author of Zechariah 14:1-15 deems the transformation of the known natural order vital for the fulfilment of the expectations raised by Ezekiel 47:1-12. …. https://www.prophecyproof.org/ezekiel-7-vs-zechariah-122-end-times/ Ezekiel 7 vs Zechariah 12:2: End Times Comparison (5) ZECHARIAH'S SPIES AND EZEKIEL'S CHERUBIM ZECHARIAH'S SPIES AND EZEKIEL'S CHERUBIM By Lena-Sofia Tiemeyer 1. Introduction There are many literary links between Zechariah’s vision report (Zech 1:7–6:8) and the book of Ezekiel. This study focuses on but one of these links, namely the similarity between the various descriptions of the cherubim in the book of Ezekiel and the description of the horses and the riders in Zechariah’s vision report. As this study will show, the overall similarity, both graphic and conceptual, between these descriptions suggests that Ezekiel’s portrayal of the cherubim influenced the literary representations of the horses in Zechariah’s vision report. I shall begin by determining the likelihood that the author of Zechariah’s vision report was familiar with the book of Ezekiel. Thereafter, I shall address two general parallels between Ezekiel’s cherubim and Zechariah’s horses and riders: (1) the shared setting of both groups, that is, the heavenly court and the divine council, and (2) the shared task of both groups, namely, to function as God’s military servants who execute his commands. Turning then to the more specific aspects of comparison, I shall first discuss three visual and conceptual points of contact between the description of Ezekiel’s cherubim and that of Zechariah’s patrols: The concept of God’s spirit/wind, The concept of chariots, The word “eyes.” Secondly, using the book of Job as a third element of comparison, we shall look at the shared theme of God’s rebelling scout: The satan of Job, the patrols of Zechariah, and the cherubim of Ezekiel are all patrolling forces who report their findings to the heavenly council. All three texts contain either the outright idea of a “fallen” member of the heavenly council (the cherub in Ezek 28:14) or the seed to such a thought (the satan in Job 1–2 and Zech 3:1–2). Lastly, we shall compare the attitude towards the high priest found in Ezek 28:11–19 and Zech 3.

Friday, February 7, 2025

Zechariah and Socrates

by Damien F. Mackey Was Socrates a prophet? The question may not be as silly as it might at first appear. Socrates as a Prophet The Evolution of Socrates The prototypal ‘Socrates’, and indeed ‘Mohammed’, are (my own view) non-historical composite entities, fictitious persons, as according to what I wrote as well of Apollonius of Tyana and Philo in my article: Apollonius of Tyana, like Philo, a fiction (2) Apollonius of Tyana, like Philo, a fiction | Damien Mackey - Academia.edu These all, however, were based on real biblico-historical people. From this basis, ‘they’ underwent a considerable literary-historical evolution, thereby picking up aspects of other characters and eras not truly belonging to ‘them’. Striking Christian aspects, for instance, such as the Prophet Mohammed’s supposed ascension from Jerusalem into the seventh heaven. Such borrowings from Christianity must have occurred during the long evolution of the system known today as ‘Islam’. Likenesses to Hebrew Holy Men Socrates and the biblical prophet Jeremiah were alike in many ways. Both, called to special work by oracular or divine power, reacted with great humility and self-distrust. And, whenever Socrates or Jeremiah encountered any who would smugly claim to have been well instructed, and who would boast of their own sufficiency, they never failed to chastise the vanity of such persons. Again, the Book of Jeremiah can at times employ a method of teaching known as Socratic: “Then came the word of the Lord unto Jeremiah, saying, Behold, I am the Lord, the God of all flesh: is there anything too hard for me?” - Jeremiah 32:26, 27. THIS method of questioning the person to be instructed is known to teachers as the Socratic method. Socrates was wont, not so much to state a fact, as to ask a question and draw out thoughts from those whom he taught: http://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/scr_index.php?act=bookSermons&book=Jeremiah&page=6 Similarly in the case of the prophet Zechariah, as we read in another place, “God used what we today call the Socratic method to teach Zechariah and the readers of this book”: http://www.muslimhope.com/BibleAnswers/zech.htm But perhaps to none of the Old Testament prophets more than Jeremiah would apply the description ‘gadfly’, for which ‘Socrates’ the truth-loving philosopher is so famous: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_gadfly The term "gadfly" (Ancient Greek: μύωψ, mýops[1]) was used by Plato in the Apology[2] to describe Socrates's relationship of uncomfortable goad to the Athenian political scene, which he compared to a slow and dimwitted horse. The Book of Jeremiah uses a similar analogy as a political metaphor. "Egypt is a very fair heifer; the gad-fly cometh, it cometh from the north." (46:20, Darby Bible) Could this last be the actual prompt for the Socratic gadfly concept? The Hebrew prophet Malachi has been called “the Hebrew Socrates”. Thus we read at: http://www.backtothebible.org/index.php/component/option,com_devotion/qid,3/task,show/resource_no,34/ .... Although little or nothing is known of the personal life of Malachi the prophet, nonetheless he has given us one of the most interesting books in the Bible. Not only is this the last book of the Old Testament, it is also the last stern rebuke of the people of God, the last call for them to repent, and the last promise of future blessing for Israel. In Malachi's day the people had become increasingly indifferent to spiritual matters. Religion had lost its glow and many of the people had become skeptical, even cynical. The priests were unscrupulous, corrupt, and immoral. The people refused to pay their tithes and offerings to the Lord and their worship degenerated into empty formalism. While the people had strong male lambs in their flocks, they were bringing blind and lame animals to be offered on the altars of Jehovah. Malachi was commissioned by God to lash out against the laxity of the people of God. This prophecy is unique for it is a continuous discourse. In fact, Malachi has been called "the Hebrew Socrates" because he uses a style which later rhetoricians call dialectic. The whole of this prophecy is a dialogue between God and the people in which the faithfulness of God is seen in contrast to the unfaithfulness of God's people. Thus Malachi is argumentative in style and unusually bold in his attacks on the priesthood, which had become corrupt. …. [End of quote] Socrates and Jeremiah were very humane individuals - Jeremiah’s constant concern for the widow and orphan - men of profound righteousness, always trying to do all that was good for the people. Both Socrates and Jeremiah were hated for having challenged the gods of the society; Jeremiah, of course, being a loyal Yahwist. Socrates, like Jeremiah, had followers or disciples who also were inspired by him and were willing to go into exile and defy the government for him. The name “Socrates”, which, I believe, does actually occur in the New Testament (I cannot just now find the appropriate reference), is thought to indicate the following: https://www.behindthename.com/name/socrates “From the Greek name Σωκράτης (Sokrates), which was derived from σῶς (sos) meaning "whole, unwounded, safe" and κράτος (kratos) meaning "power".” Might not the name perhaps, instead, have originated with the phonetically like Hebrew name ‘Zechariah’ (זְכַרְיָה) - of which ‘Sokrates’ is a most adequate transliteration (allowing, of course, for a typically Greek ending, -tes, to have replaced the Hebrew one)? Martyrdom But can the prophet Jeremiah also have been a martyr, as the philosopher Socrates is so famously considered to have been? There appears to be much uncertainty about how and when Jeremiah actually died. According to one tradition, the great prophet was martyred by stoning whilst an exile in Egypt: http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/8586-jeremiah The Christian legend (pseudo-Epiphanius, "De Vitis Prophetarum"; Basset, "Apocryphen Ethiopiens," i. 25-29), according to which Jeremiah was stoned by his compatriots in Egypt because he reproached them with their evil deeds, became known to the Jews through Ibn Yaḥya ("Shalshelet ha-Ḳabbalah," ed. princeps, p. 99b); this account of Jeremiah's martyrdom, however, may have come originally from Jewish sources. Jeremiah’s life was so full of suffering and persecution, however, that one will discover in, for example, The Jerome Biblical Commentary (19:98), the designation of the substantial block of Jeremiah 36:1-45:5, as the “Martyrdom of Jeremiah”. And, whilst Jeremiah is not recorded in the OT as having suffered a life-ending martyrdom, there was an earlier prophet Zechariah who assuredly did. And his end was brought about most interestingly, in light of the above, by stoning (2 Chronicles 24:20-21 (NRSV): Then the spirit of God took possession of Zechariah son of the priest Jehoiada; he stood above the people and said to them, ‘Thus says God: Why do you transgress the commandments of the Lord, so that you cannot prosper? Because you have forsaken the Lord, he has also forsaken you.’ But they conspired against him, and by command of the king they stoned him to death in the court of the house of the Lord. Perhaps, though, the death by martyrdom in the Old Testament (Catholic) Scriptures that most resembles that of ‘Socrates’, is that of the venerable and aged Eleazer about which we read in 2 Maccabees 6:18-31: The Martyrdom of Eleazar Eleazar, one of the scribes in high position, a man now advanced in age and of noble presence, was being forced to open his mouth to eat swine’s flesh. But he, welcoming death with honour rather than life with pollution, went up to the rack of his own accord, spitting out the flesh, as all ought to go who have the courage to refuse things that it is not right to taste, even for the natural love of life. Those who were in charge of that unlawful sacrifice took the man aside because of their long acquaintance with him, and privately urged him to bring meat of his own providing, proper for him to use, and to pretend that he was eating the flesh of the sacrificial meal that had been commanded by the king, so that by doing this he might be saved from death, and be treated kindly on account of his old friendship with them. But making a high resolve, worthy of his years and the dignity of his old age and the grey hairs that he had reached with distinction and his excellent life even from childhood, and moreover according to the holy God-given law, he declared himself quickly, telling them to send him to Hades. ‘Such pretence is not worthy of our time of life,’ he said, ‘for many of the young might suppose that Eleazar in his ninetieth year had gone over to an alien religion, and through my pretence, for the sake of living a brief moment longer, they would be led astray because of me, while I defile and disgrace my old age. Even if for the present I would avoid the punishment of mortals, yet whether I live or die I will not escape the hands of the Almighty. Therefore, by bravely giving up my life now, I will show myself worthy of my old age and leave to the young a noble example of how to die a good death willingly and nobly for the revered and holy laws.’ When he had said this, he went at once to the rack. Those who a little before had acted towards him with goodwill now changed to ill will, because the words he had uttered were in their opinion sheer madness. When he was about to die under the blows, he groaned aloud and said: ‘It is clear to the Lord in his holy knowledge that, though I might have been saved from death, I am enduring terrible sufferings in my body under this beating, but in my soul I am glad to suffer these things because I fear him.’ So in this way he died, leaving in his death an example of nobility and a memorial of courage, not only to the young but to the great body of his nation. And this may be where it becomes necessary once again to invoke our composite theory. The two accounts of martyrdom have sufficient similarities between them for the author of the apocryphal 4 Maccabees to consider: https://books.google.com.au/books?id=4rP118zc8e4C&pg=PA119&lpg=PA119&dq Eleazer as a “New Socrates” … the archetype of the semi-voluntary intellectual martyr: he is a νομικός in the royal Court (4 Macc 5:5) … he is implicitly compared with Socrates by the metaphor of the pilot (4 Macc 7:6) … young people regard him as their “teacher” (4 Macc 9:7)”. For Eleazer (a “New Socrates”) as the second martyred Zechariah, to whose death Jesus Christ refers in e.g. Luke 11:50-51, see my article: Jesus Christ gives meaning to ancient history and geography (2) Jesus Christ gives meaning to ancient history and geography

Ezekiel’s imagery borrowed by Plato and Aeschylus?

by Damien F. Mackey “Herder has called [Ezekiel] the AEschylus and Shakespeare of the Hebrews …”. Ezekiel appropriated by the Greeks? (i) Plato One instance of this may be Ezekiel’s Merkabah vision, picked up, perhaps, in Plato’s Phaedrus: https://www.john-uebersax.com/plato/plato3.htm THE Chariot Allegory of Plato, which appears in the Phaedrus, is a very important part of the Western — and World — spiritual and philosophical tradition. It presents a rich metaphor for the soul and its journey. Everyone with a soul should read it! The soul is portrayed as a compound of three components: a charioteer (Reason), and two winged steeds: one white (spiritedness, the irascible element, boldness) and one black (the appetitive element, concupiscence, desire). The goal is to ascend to divine heights — but the black horse poses problems. The chariot image arguably supplies a better tripartite model of the human psyche than Freud's divisions of ego, id and super-ego, However the chariot itself is just the beginning; the story of its journeys is a revealing allegory of the spiritual or philosophical life. …. [End of quote] Prophet Ezekiel and Plato’s ‘Myth of Er’ Traces of Ezekiel’s famous ‘merkabah’ vision of the wheels within wheels may perhaps be found towards the end of Plato’s Republic, in the mysterious Myth of Er. IMAGE: WHEELS WITHIN WHEELS (Ezekiel 1 and 3) The prophet Ezekiel tells of what he saw (1:15-17): As I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the earth beside the living creatures, one for each of the four of them. As for the appearance of the wheels, and their construction: their appearance was like a gleaming of beryl; and the four had the same form, their construction being something like a wheel within a wheel. When they moved they moved in any of the four directions without veering as they moved. …. Ezekiel would encounter these whirling creatures again at the river Chebar, in captivity, when he said (3:15): “I came to the exiles at Tel-abib, who lived by the river Chebar. And I sat there among them stunned for seven days” (note this is exactly what Job’s three friends had done as well, Job 2:13). Here is the prophet’s full account of it (Ezekiel 3:12-21): Then the spirit lifted me up, and as the glory of the Lord rose from its place, I heard behind me the sound of loud rumbling; it was the sound of the wings of the living creatures brushing against one another, and the sound of the wheels beside them, that sounded like a loud rumbling. The spirit lifted me up and bore me away; I went in bitterness in the heat of my spirit, the hand of the Lord being strong upon me. I came to the exiles at Tel-abib, who lived by the river Chebar. And I sat there among them stunned for seven days. At the end of the seven days, the word of the Lord came to me: Mortal, I have made you a sentinel for the house of Israel; whenever you hear a word from my mouth, you shall give them warning from me. If I say to the wicked, ‘You shall surely die’, and you give them no warning, or speak to warn the wicked from their wicked way, in order to save their life, those wicked persons shall die for their iniquity; but their blood I will require at your hand. But if you warn the wicked, and they do not turn from their wickedness, or from their wicked way, they shall die for their iniquity; but you will have saved your life. Again, if the righteous turn from their righteousness and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling block before them, they shall die; because you haven’t warned them, they shall die for their sin, and their righteous deeds that they have done shall not be remembered; but their blood I will require at your hand. If, however, you warn the righteous not to sin, and they do not sin, they shall surely live, because they took warning; and you will have saved your life. Myth of Er Now let us see what (as I think) Plato might have done to this inspired text, in the ‘Myth of Er’, at the end of the Republic, with Ezekiel, replaced by the messenger, Er; Er being the soul of a dead person come to life, whereas Ezekiel had been in spirit lifted out of his body. And Er being set apart as a messenger to the dead as they choose their destiny, whereas Ezekiel, set apart as the prophet-sentinel, is amongst the exiled living, calling them to righteousness over evil (Republic, 614): [Er] said when his soul left its body it travelled in company with many others till they came to a wonderfully strange place, where there were, close to each other, two gaping chasms in the earth, and opposite and above them two other chasms in the sky. Between the chasms sat Judges, who, having delivered judgement, ordered the just to take the right-hand road that led up through the sky, and fastened the badge of their judgement in front of them, while they ordered the unjust, who carried the badges of all that they had done behind them, to take the left-hand road that led downwards. When Er came before them, they said that he was to be a messenger to men about the other world, and ordered him to listen to and watch all that went on in that place. As to the Glory of God and the wheels within wheels, a famous image from Ezekiel, Plato again tells of something very similar. It is what he calls the ‘spindle of Necessity’, and is eschatological like Ezekiel. And the seven day period is there also, as in Ezekiel (Republic, Bk. 10, 615): ‘After seven days spent in the meadow the souls set out again and came on the fourth day to a place from which they could see a shaft of light running straight through earth and heaven, like a pillar, in colour most nearly resembling a rainbow, only brighter and clearer; after a further day’s journey they entered the light and could then look down its axis and see the ends of it stretching from heaven, to which they were tied; for this light is the tie-rod of heaven which holds its whole circumference together like the braces of a trireme [a Greek boat]. And to these ends is fastened the spindle of Necessity, which causes all the orbits to revolve; its shaft and its hook are of adamant, and its whorl a mixture of adamant and other substances. And the whorl is made in the following way. Its shape is like the ones we know; but from the description Er gave me we must suppose it to consist of a large whorl hollowed out, with a second fitting exactly into it, the second being hollowed out to hold a third, the third a fourth, and so on up to a total of eight, like a nest of bowls. For there were in all eight whorls, fitting one inside the other, with their rims showing as circles from above and forming a continuous surface of a single whorl round the shaft, which was driven straight through the middle of the eighth…’. Er’s “Forgetful river”, where the souls were all encamped (ibid., 620), has probably taken the place of the river Chebar, where Ezekiel was living amongst the exiles. Whereas Er seems to be amongst the dead, Ezekiel - who does in fact have a vision of dead bones becoming en-fleshed again (Ezekiel 37:1-14) - is a prophet to the living, with the portfolio from God to warn the evildoers. Ezekiel’s account of the good who turn to evil, and the evil who turn to good, may have been picked up in the Greek version as souls choosing in what form they will come back, whether as tyrants or as virtual saints. Now, Justin Martyr had given consideration to this famous Platonic myth: The Myth of Er Justin is quoting from Plato's The Republic book 10. It is the very last section of the Republic where Socrates is relating to Glaucon a story about the fate of souls after death. The story is known as the myth of Er. A description is given of a man called Er son of Armenius from Pamphylia and his journey into the realm of the dead. In his journey he was shown how Souls were judged, how they had to pay back 10 fold for all that they did on earth. Halliwell introduces the myth. The myth of Er belongs to a great 'family' of Platonic eschatological visions, whose other members are the myths found in the Gorgias; Phaedo, and Phaedrus... Few will dispute that the interpretation of all these passages must take as primary frame of reference Plato's own attitudes to myth ...Yet the myth of Er contains an especial number of elements ¬- starting with Er’s name itself - which stimulated inquiries into Plato's sources" (Halliwell 1988,169) "the rewards and punishments experienced during human life cannot compare with those which await us after death. Socrates explains the nature of these by relating the story of Er, a Pamphylian soldier who returned to life and told of what his soul had witnessed in the other world" (Halliwell 1988, 169). Having seen many Er comes to the place where the souls were permitted to choose their next life on earth. This process was overseen by ones who were called the three daughters of Necessity (Thugateras tees Anagkees), being Lachesis, Clotho and Atropos who can be seen in the writings of Hesiod and Pindar. They were first named by Hesiod (Ferguson, 118). They were singing in tune with a Siren which was making a single sound. Lachesis sung of the past, Clotho of the present and Atropos of the future. Our main interest is in Lachesis as it is her words which Justin quotes. She is called the Disposer of Lots or She who allots. Her name can also be an appellative for lot or destiny as in Herodotus (LS 1978, 466). Lachesis sang of the past and when it was time for souls to choose their next life on earth, they would be lined up by a prophet to appear before Lachesis. They could choose their life in order of the lots they received. They would each choose a daimon to go through their life with them. A daimon is sometimes synonymous with a god as in Homer, but sometimes considered inferior as in Hesiod where it is between God and man. In the myth of Er they are attendant (Ferguson, 120) or guardian spirits. We will let Socrates relate the rest of this event: From the lap of Lachesis he (the prophet) took numbers for drawing lots and patterns of lives. Ascending a high platform (beema), he began to speak: “The word of the maiden Lachesis, daughter of Necessity. Souls, creatures of the day, here begins another cycle of mortal life and death it brings. Your guardian spirit will not be given to you by lot. You will choose a guardian spirit for yourselves. Let the one who draws the first lot be the first to choose a life. He will then be joined to it by Necessity. Virtue knows no master. Your respect or contempt for it will give each of you greater or smaller share. The choice makes you responsible God is not responsible" -Aitia elomenou. Theos anaitios …. It is the last four words spoken by the prophet as the word of Lachesis, which Justin Martyr quotes to indicate Plato took them from Moses and uttered {eipe} them. These then are the four words under investigation. …. Justin's claim that these four words came from Moses to Plato. [End of quote] The discussion after this goes beyond our interest. I inserted a part of it here simply to demonstrate that a Platonic Myth, whose origin I think might lie with the prophet Ezekiel, was discussed by Justin Martyr in terms of a possible Hebrew-biblical connection. There is also an interesting – but rather difficult and perhaps occasionally far-fetched – article in which comparisons are made of the mathematics of Plato and that attributed to Ezekiel: https://www.scribd.com/document/395416431/The-Forgotten-Harmonical-Science-of-the-Bible The forgotten harmonical science of the Bible Ernest G. McClain Here is a portion of it (# 3): Both Ezekiel and Plato project their arithmetic into similar concentric circles, “a wheel in a wheel,” functioning as the throne of an idealized heaven. Plato’s analysis of 5,040 fits many of Ezekiel’s metaphors and thus facilitates decoding the sameness and difference between nascent Greek science and traditional Jewish wisdom. This is the cross-cultural ambiance in which Philo was educated and about which he wrote with equal passion for Greek learning and for his own religion, which shared the same models. The music of the synagogue embodied their union and freed his soul to roam where it would. The two musical modes decoded from Bible numerology have proved to be associated historically with the mode of the Torah (Greek Dorian) and the mode of the Prophets (Greek Phrygian) in ways Philo helps us understand; they are the two modes Plato admitted in model cities.16,17 The importance of the priestly 7-year calendrical cycle is emphasized in Ezekiel 39:10 where God insists that after his destruction of Israel’s enemies the country will have no “need to take wood out of the field or cut down any out of the forests” for a period of seven years, “for they will make their fires of the weapons” of warfare. I analyze the tonal content in 5,040 “days plus nights” as furnishing Jewish “weapons” of spiritual warfare not merely on this circumstantial biblical evidence but because this also follows Jewish philosophical precedent. …. [End of quote] The Greeks often absorbed Hebrew and Near Eastern culture and civilization, mythology and folklore, and re-presented it as their own. Every later generation does this sort of thing, of course. Perhaps it is more true to say that western scholars have given credit to the Greeks - the civilization with which they especially identify (we find Socrates and his friends holding gentlemanly-like discussions, ‘My dear chap …’) - for culture, ideas, inventions, philosophies, laws, you name it, that actually arose from the more ancient nations of the Fertile Crescent (Egypt, Syro-Palestine, Mesopotamia). Much has been attributed to the Greeks that did not belong to them. Take architecture, for example. Egyptologist Sir Henry Breasted made the point that Queen Hatshepsut’s marvellous temple structure, “The Most Splendid of Splendours” at Deir el-Bahri, near Thebes, was a witness to the fact that the Egyptians developed architectural styles for which the later civilization of Greeks would be accredited as the originators (A History of Egypt, 1924, p. 274). (ii) Aeschylus Is Aeschylus, the so-called “Father of Tragedy”, yet another of such Greek appropriations, in his case of the Hebrew prophet Ezekiel with whom he is so frequently compared? The Pulpit Commentary, considering Ezekiel 18:1-4: The word of the LORD came to me: “What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel: “‘The parents eat sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge’? “As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel. For everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child—both alike belong to me. The one who sins is the one who will die”. interestingly likens the prophet Ezekiel to “the Greek poet who was likest to him”, to Aeschylus: http://biblehub.com/commentaries/pulpit/ezekiel/18.htm …. Ezekiel was led, however, to feel that there was a latent falsehood in the plea. In the depth of his consciousness there was the witness that every man was personally responsible for the things that he did, that the eternal righteousness of God would not ultimately punish the innocent for the guilty, he had to work out, according to the light given him, his vindication of the ways of God to man, to sketch at least the outlines of a theodicy. Did he, in doing this, come forward as a prophet, correcting and setting aside the teaching of the Law? At first, and on a surface view, he might seem to do so. But it was with him as it was afterwards with St. Paul He "established the Law" in the very teaching which seemed to contradict it. He does not deny (it would have been idle to do so) that the sins of the fathers are visited upon the children, i.e. affect those children for evil. What he does is to define the limits of that law. And he may have found his starting point in that very book which, for him and his generation, was the great embodiment of the Law as a whole. If men were forbidden, as in Deuteronomy 24:16, to put the children to death for the sins of the fathers; if that was to be the rule of human justice, - the justice of God could not be less equitable than the rule which he prescribed for his creatures. It is not without interest to note the parallelism between Ezekiel and the Greek poet who was likest to him, as in his genius, so also in the courage with which he faced the problems of the universe. Aeschylus also recognizes ('Agam.,' 727-756) that there is a righteous order in the seeming anomalies of history. Men might say, in their proverbs, that prosperity as such provoked the wrath of the gods, and brought on the downfall of a "woe insatiable;" and then he adds – "But I, apart from all, Hold this my creed alone." And that creed is that punishment comes only when the children reproduce the impious recklessness of their fathers. "Justice shines brightly in the dwellings of those who love the right, and rule their life by law." Into the deeper problem raised by the modern thought of inherited tendencies developed by the environment, which itself originates in the past, it was not given to Ezekiel or Aeschylus to enter. [End of quotes] Aeschylus is thought to have been born around 525 BC, which was also the approximate era (conventionally speaking) of the prophet Ezekiel. The name “Aeschyl[us]” I would consider to be simply a Grecised version of the Hebrew name, “Ezekiel” of the same phonetics. And, as we have already found with certain supposed Greek notables (statesmen, philosophers), such as Thales, Empedocles, Pythagoras, Solon – who, I have argued, were actually ghostly representations of real Hebrew geniuses, Joseph, Moses, Solomon - ‘little is known’ about them. To give some examples: Thales: “Not much is known about the philosopher’s early life, not even his exact dates of birth and death”. Heraclitus: “Little is known about his early life and education, but he regarded himself as self-taught and a pioneer of wisdom”. Empedocles: “Very little is known about his life”. And so we read once again, now regarding Aeschylus (my emphasis) http://www.ancient-literature.com/greece_aeschylus.html There are few reliable sources for the life of Aeschylus. He was said to have been born in about 525 or 524 BCE in Eleusis, a small town just northwest of Athens. As a youth, he worked at a vineyard until, according to tradition, the god Dionysus visited him in his sleep and commanded him to turn his attention to the nascent art of tragedy. [End of quote] That is hardly encouraging! It is probably, I think, a late recollection of the call of the Hebrew prophet, Ezekiel, who certainly lived through a time of great tragedy for Judah, culminating in that greatest of all catastrophes, the Fall of Jerusalem to the Babylonians and the destruction of the Temple of Yahweh. Not surprising, then, that we read of Aeschylus as being “like a Hebrew prophet”. Thus, for instance (Seneca and Elizabethan Tragedy, pp. 8-9): “Aeschylus the prophet, the soldier of the Great War who found Athens [read Jerusalem] becoming estranged, as a generation grew up that knew neither him nor it, wrestling with the problem of World-governance alone like a Hebrew prophet ...”. And, according to James Orr (The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia): “Herder, with his undeniable and undenied fine appreciation of the poetry of many nations, calls Ezekiel “the Aeschylus and the Shakespeare of the Hebrews” (compare Lange's Commentary on Ezk, 519). Hebrew Influence Upon Aeschylus? “Aeschylus seems to have had an intimate knowledge of Hebrew theology, for instance, he wrote “Prometheus Bound” Wherein he seems to be familiar with the Exodus wanderings, the Law Covenant, and the idea of the Messiah”. John R. Salverda. Damien Mackey to John R. Salverda Dear John …. The name Aeschylus (“Father of Tragedy”) has struck me as a Greek version of Ezechiel (Eschyl = Ezchil) [i.e., without the Greek ending -us, -os]. And apparently a writer named Herder has actually referred to Ezechiel as an 'Aeschylus': .... Whedon - Commentary on Ezekiel-Daniel www.westbrookewesleyan.org/wesleyan-docs/.../WHD_CO08.PDFYou .... .... by DD Whedon - 2002 .... "Herder has called him the AEschylus and Shakespeare of the Hebrews, while Schiller wished to study Hebrew chiefly because he longed to read Ezekiel in his [language]". Any ideas there? …. Dear Damien, I too hope to loosen up your audience to the idea of a discussion, they think that they have nothing to add, but they could be wrong about that. Sometimes even what a person believes is a trifling remark can spark a significant idea in another. The process of “discussion” can be a very important one. Now, as to the equation of the names “Ezekiel” and “Aeschylus.” In my opinion they are almost certainly transliterations of the same name. The Hebrew prophet Ezekiel lived only about one hundred years before the Greek playwright Aeschylus (conventionally speaking); and the Greek culture and people were heavily influenced and populated by Israelites, in my view. As to the idea that they might be one and the same person; I would still need to be convinced of that. …. Never-the-less I do have some ideas that do tend to support the notion. Aeschylus seems to have had an intimate knowledge of Hebrew theology, for instance, he wrote “Prometheus Bound” wherein he seems to be familiar with the Exodus wanderings, the Law Covenant, and the idea of the Messiah. With only but a small fraction of what he wrote available to us today, (he wrote about an hundred plays but only less than ten have survived,) it is a bit difficult to tell what he may have been preaching to those ancient Greeks. So far as I know he was the first Greek mythographer to link “the wanderings of Io” (the Jew), with Prometheus, the creator of man who was “bound” to his mountain (God bound by contract/ covenant to Sinai). Aeschylus has Io, driven by a divinely ordained plague (gadfly) wander to the mountain of Prometheus, where he tells her that he will be freed from his “bindings” (covenant) by a descendant (the Messiah, by whom he means Heracles) of hers, thirteen generations hence. Re-read my article on Io (at http://westerncivilisationamaic.blogspot.com/2012/01/more-on-moses-as-hermes.html ) surely Aeschylus was relating traditions that he was fully familiar with. I hope that this is of some help to you in your researches, but I must say, that Ezekiel seems to be more focused upon the future return of the tribes of Israel to join with Judah (Eze. 37:15). He does speak of the Exodus (Chapter 20) but not in the terms of God being “bound” to the covenant, to him the people were bound, but broke the covenant. He mentions David (thirteen generations from Abraham) in Messianic terms four times, but usually as a future Messiah who rules over the “re-gathered” Israel. He speaks of a future "peace covenant" without mentioning the dissolution of the old covenant at Sinai. .... [End of quote] For Luke the Evangelist’s potential personal involvement with what he describes here: ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me? It is hard for you kicking against the goad’. Acts 26:14 see my series: Luke may be Paul’s healer, Ananias of Damascus (6) Luke may be Paul’s healer, Ananias of Damascus Luke may be Paul's healer, Ananias of Damascus. Part Two: St. Luke kept returning to Damascus incident (6) Luke's Repeated References to Damascus Luke may be Paul's healer, Ananias of Damascus. Part Three: Benedictus "… redacted in a Semitic language" (6) Luke may be Paul's healer, Ananias of Damascus. Part Three: Benedictus "… redacted in a Semitic language" Was Luke quoting here from Aeschylus, or perhaps from one or other of the Greco-Roman poets, tragedians or comedians who supposedly used this very phrase, kicking against the goad[s]? Greek: sklhron soi proV kentra laktizein According to Carsten Peter Thiede (The Jesus Papyrus: The Most Sensational Evidence on the Origins of the Gospels Since the Discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls (2000) on this very point, Luke’s use of the phrase: This is an unmistakable allusion to one of the most popular cycles of Greek tragedy, the Oresteian trilogy by Aeschylus which is still frequently performed today. In the first of three tragedies, Agamemnon, Aegisthus says to the Chorus (vv. 1623-4): ‘Does not this sight bind you reflect? Then do not kick / Against the goad, lest you should strike out, and be hurt’. The central point of this passage, the kicking against the goad (pròs kéntra me láktize), occurs in a less recognizable context elsewhere in Aeschylus’ writing, in his tragedy Prometheus (v. 235). It was also used in a similar form … by Euripides in Bacchae (v. 795). Even a Latin comedian, Terentius, employs it in his play Phormio (vv. 77-8): ‘The word came to my mind: For what stupidity it is for you to kick against the goad’ (Nam quae inscitia est? Advorsum stimulum calces). We can also add the Greek lyric poet, Pindar, to this list of apparent users of this phrase. We do know that St. Paul himself had quoted from Greek poetry, for example Acts 17:28: here addressed to the men of Athens. And it has been suggested that Jesus Christ himself may have been familiar with Greco-Roman theatre from having lived in close proximity to Sepphoris: https://itsgila.com/highlightssepphoris.htm Seventeen times the word "hypocrites" appears in the Gospels, and three times in the Sermon on the Mount. Where would Jesus, growing up in the small village of Nazareth, have come into contact with “hypocrites,” a Greek word for actors who wore masks, (thus having two faces)? Perhaps five miles away in Sepphoris. Perched like a bird (tzippor in Hebrew) on a Galilee hilltop, Sepphoris (Hebrew: Tzippori) is an hour’s walk from Nazareth, Jesus’ hometown. During Jesus’ childhood, Sepphoris was the provincial capital of Galilee and the city where the villagers took care of their official business. It had a theater which seated about 3,000 spectators. Bible scholar and archeologist Jerome Murphy O’Connor believes that after returning from Egypt, Joseph and Mary settled in Nazareth precisely because of its proximity to Sepphoris. After 3 BC, Sepphoris was the center of a building boom, providing work opportunities for artisans such as Joseph. Did Jesus have a hand building the theater of Sepphoris, just reconstructed for us? Perhaps. Could he have been a spectator here to a tragedy, comedy or farce? Jesus was an observant Jew and followed the precepts of the rabbis for whom the theater represented a way of life that was external, hedonistic and above all, pagan. Yet undoubtedly Jesus knew what went on at a theater. …. [End of quote] But see also my article: New identification argued for Nazareth https://www.academia.edu/44103122/New_identification_argued_for_Nazareth It would seem more likely to me that Jesus, a Hebrew-speaking Jew: Jesus would have spoken Hebrew with a Galilean accent https://www.academia.edu/33200844/Jesus_would_have_spoken_Hebrew_with_a_Galilean_accent would here have been - consistent with his normal practice - referring to teachings from the Hebrew Old Testament, from King Solomon perhaps. For example: (Ecclesiastes 12:11): “The words of the wise are like goads, their collected sayings like firmly embedded nails—given by one shepherd”. (Proverbs 13:15): “The way of the unfaithful is hard”. (Proverbs 15:10): “Stern discipline awaits him who leaves the path”.